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steamwiz Supreme Guru

Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 14022 Points: 2332 Location: Yorkshire U.K.

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| Posted: Sun 03/07/2004 3:31pm [Post #1] |
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I have a suggestion for osc to consider....
I am posting it here so that anyone who wants to comment on it can have their say.
Every so often a grateful "customer" will offer to pay me for my time.
Now osc must incur expenses in running this site....
I think there should be a "donate" button on every post, so that anyone who wishes to make a small contribution toward the running of this site, can do so.
One very useful improvement to the site would be if we could upload small files to the threads......just a text file or a .jpg
If osc had a little extra cash....this might be easier to accomplish.
I do not want to see this site become one of the "big" ones.....I am a member at several security sites, and they don't have the friendly family atmosphere of this site.
However all of them have a way to donate to the sites.
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Osc Help2Go Administrator

Joined: 01 Jan 1999 Posts: 1789 Points: 516 Location: Washington, DC

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| Posted: Sun 03/07/2004 4:56pm [Post #2] |
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Hi steam,
I've had a donation box in the past, through the Amazon Honor System, but I took it off after awhile since it didn't really generate much and I didn't like the idea of asking for money on every page, or of making money on the work of others...
You're right in that the site does cost me a bunch of money, but I basically categorize it as a charitable expense (and my wife doesn't bother me about it too much). What I will do is resurrect the Honor System box, but only put it on a single posting in the Contributors section. If people ask how to donate, we can direct them there, but I don't want it to be in their face all the time (of course, that's also why I'm a lousy businessman ). And of course, whatever comes in will be immediately pumped back into the operations of the site.
I'm with you in that I like the fact that the site is small and has a family atmosphere. I hope that's what keeps people coming back! _________________ Oscar Sodani
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Osc Help2Go Administrator

Joined: 01 Jan 1999 Posts: 1789 Points: 516 Location: Washington, DC

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| Posted: Sun 03/07/2004 5:52pm [Post #3] |
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steamwiz Supreme Guru

Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 14022 Points: 2332 Location: Yorkshire U.K.

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| Posted: Sun 03/07/2004 6:17pm [Post #4] |
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Hi osc
I respect your opinion and your decision......but I don't necessarily agree with it.
I don't see why you should have to bear the expense yourself of running the site.
I don't think people are put off or offended by seeing a donate button....as long as it doesn't say "donate or else"
Most of the posters, I'm sure don't even think it costs anything to run a site.
I don't want to push anything here with you...but how about a compromise.
A button at the top of the "Questions & Answers" forum, saying .....if we have helped you and you would like to make a contribution toward the running of this site, please click here.
If you want to know the members feelings about this....how about a poll with various options.
OK I've finished now osc....your next post is final.
steam
EDIT I 've just seen you post above osc .... got it saved.  _________________ Look here for Ways to keep your computer safe
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Basementgeek Supreme Guru
Joined: 01 Jan 2003 Posts: 12000 Points: 1188

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| Posted: Sun 03/07/2004 9:33pm [Post #5] |
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Steam/osc
This is a great idea start this back up. I felt it was such a good idea that I have already made a donation to: donate at help2go.com via paypal.
Maybe just a simple "button" on the bottom like the PM button that say
"Donate" linking to your post http://www.help2go.com/article185.html.
I know a lot of us have fun as well learn/help. I hope other members donate because of the "Fun" we have here.
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steamwiz Supreme Guru

Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 14022 Points: 2332 Location: Yorkshire U.K.

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| Posted: Mon 03/08/2004 5:21am [Post #6] |
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HI Basementgeek
I'm sure osc will be grateful for your donation, but I wasn't suggesting it for active members of the forum, who regularly give help, like yourself.
I was thinking of the poster who has 2 choices...take the computer into a shop and pay $$$,s for what might only be a five minute fix, or come here.
We solve their problem...they go away...and we don't see them again until their next problem.
I'm sure quite a few of them would want to show their gratitude with a small donation, but it wouldn't even cross their mind if they do not see a donate button.
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galena1 Supreme Guru

Joined: 19 Oct 2003 Posts: 3109 Points: 428 Location: Devon -UK

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| Posted: Mon 03/08/2004 5:40am [Post #7] |
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I see a problem here Osc is going to be so busy counting money that he may start neglecting the site and it could possibly degenerate into a place where sad old buggers, like me, will be allowed to post completely meaningless and unhelpful ramblings....er!! just like this one. Great idea, hope it works Cheers to all. Bob. _________________ I know everything about nothing, nothing about everything and precious little about the bit in between.
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Basementgeek Supreme Guru
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| Posted: Mon 03/08/2004 9:55am [Post #8] |
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I had thought some time ago, but never asked, about donating to H2G.
Like most hobbies, people have, cost money. This is a hobby therefore I felt that I ought to kick in something.
It has helped me learn many,many things and even has helped me with a couple problems I have had.
Back in Oct 01 I just had to have the New XP so I ran out and bought a copy of it. Installed on my PC and found out it did not like my scanner or CD R/W so I read that if unistalled it It would go back to 98. Well it did
but naturally lost display and modem driver. That service cost me
$135.00.
I decided that if I wanted to avoid spending more money to pay someone to fix my problems I would have to learn something about PC's. Help2Go
has been my teacher.
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Osc Help2Go Administrator

Joined: 01 Jan 1999 Posts: 1789 Points: 516 Location: Washington, DC

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| Posted: Mon 03/08/2004 10:49am [Post #9] |
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I definitely see steamwiz's point - if someone feels that the site has helped them out of a jam, then they might feel good giving a donation. I'm OK with that as long as the requests for money are not "in their face". Maybe a subtle button somewhere on the page, like what has been suggested on this thread.
Again, my sincerest thanks to those who have or will donate! _________________ Oscar Sodani
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Osc Help2Go Administrator

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| Posted: Wed 03/17/2004 5:00pm [Post #10] |
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FYI: Added a donation link to the forum menu above. _________________ Oscar Sodani
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galena1 Supreme Guru

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| Posted: Wed 03/17/2004 5:46pm [Post #11] |
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Bloody heck Osc - Stop feeling so uncomfortable about it. Make it BIG AND BOLD Regards Bob.
EDIT: and RED _________________ I know everything about nothing, nothing about everything and precious little about the bit in between.
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steamwiz Supreme Guru

Joined: 12 Sep 2003 Posts: 14022 Points: 2332 Location: Yorkshire U.K.

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| Posted: Wed 03/17/2004 7:24pm [Post #12] |
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HI osc
Nice one...not "in your face" but should be seen.....
I would have put it next to the "profile" and "PM" buttons at the bottom of each post......but I know you didn't want it to be too noticeable.
galena1 has a point.....there is no need to feel uncomfortable about it....
You are not ASKING for a donation.....just making the option available for anyone who WANTS to donate.
Anyway I think it's fine where it is....let's hope it brings in a few cents...dollars even
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galena1 Supreme Guru

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| Posted: Thu 03/18/2004 6:33am [Post #13] |
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The only reason I suggested the colour red for 'donate' was that I am colour blind and can't see the colour red Just kidding  _________________ I know everything about nothing, nothing about everything and precious little about the bit in between.
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Osc Help2Go Administrator

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| Posted: Thu 03/18/2004 10:43am [Post #14] |
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OK, OK
I'll try to come up with a nice graphic to stick next to the PM and profile buttons...  |
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Canuck Help2Go Administrator

Joined: 22 May 2003 Posts: 6945 Points: 1425 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

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| Posted: Thu 03/18/2004 1:08pm [Post #15] |
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Don't get the idea we're twisting your arm osc  |
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