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    Default Microsoft Word, IObit and the Cut and Paste Function

    If you are like me, then you love IOBit, creator of the Advanced Systems Repair and other great freeware systems programs.

    If you are like millions of people around the world, then you use Microsoft Word on a daily basis.

    And herein lay the problem that perplexed me for three straight days in 2011 - your cut and paste function in Microsoft Word 2010 stops working.

    One day it's there, working as expected, the next day it's gone, like a thief in the night.

    I literally tried everything under the sun to restore the function to good working order. Read every Microsoft article related to the cut and paste function, posted in several Microsoft forums.

    Zip. Zero. Nil. Nada. Nothing.

    I loaded and deleted and loaded and deleted and loaded and deleted Microsoft Word so many times I could work through the set-up program with my eyes closed.

    I finally resigned myself to having to switch to another word processing program, when out of the blue, someone posted a fix to one of the forums I was monitoring.

    And I couldn't believe my eyes. It was an IOBit program (SmartRam) that ran unobtrusively in my system tray that was the culprit.

    Unmasked at last!

    By opening the options and un-checking the "clean clipboard" option, my cut and paste function returned to Microsoft Word as if it had never been gone.

    All hijacked by a tiny RAM monitoring program designed by my favorite software team that cleaned the clipboard as soon as anything was put there (just like it said it would.)

    Just goes to show you that even the smallest of the bunch can fell the mighty.

    Cheers,

    Michael
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    If you are like me, then you love IOBit, creator of the Advanced Systems Repair and other great freeware systems programs.
    From your post, I am not sure if you like, or like me, hate any program from IObit company.
    So just a quick addition to your post, and my opinions of IObit company and their programs -

    I have seen their "Advanced System Repair" program cause many problems to many computers ever since they introduced this mix of Registry Cleaner / Antivirus / Antimalware / Defrag / Etc , Etc , program.

    If I ever see a computer with the program listed, my first action is to ALWAYS remove all traces of IObits' components, and if you ever try this manually you will spend hours finding the minor traces that are left as Spyware by this company. Try to use the uninstaller provided by IObit with this program, and you will never remove all traces of the mash of programs involved in the "one simple program" -

    This is because it never actully removes the full program, and only removes the basic shortcuts that you see on an open inspection, and not the hidden items that are unseen by a first inspection.

    Fred DeVries, a program developer, now lists a special removal tool, hosted at Singular Labs, that he developed after finding that IObit caused clashes with other Antivirus and Antimalware programs, and that the Registry Cleaner section of the program can remove or alter some important areas of the Windows Registry, that should not be touched by persons who are not aware of what is included in the registry.

    These are only my personal opinions on a program / company that caused my computer to have many problems, and I have also seen many other computers with similar loss of data, and general problems -

    Thank you for allowing me to express my opinions -

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    Might want to read this also about Iobit

    IOBit Steals Malwarebytes' Intellectual Property - Malwarebytes Forum


    It started with the MBAM team discovering a forum thread at the IOBit forum with a user questioning the scan results from their new Security 360 product. The scan result is:

    Dont.Steal.Our.Software.A, File, G:\Nothing Much\Anti-Spyware\Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware v1.39\Key_Generator.exe, 9-30501


    The definition classification of Don't.Steal.Our.Software.A. is the exact same one that Malwarebytes' uses in their virus definitions for various MBAM serial code generators. The MBAM staff found it strange that IOBit would detect MBAM keygens and at the same time use the classification that they themselves made up. This led them to become suspicious and to dig deeper into the IOBit virus definitions. What they discovered was that this was not a unique incident and that there were other definitions that were copied directly from their database as well.

    To finally confirm that they were indeed stealing their definitions, MBAM created a definition for a fake and nonexistent Rogue program called Rogue.AVCleanSweepPro and created fake and harmless test files to go along with this test. This is not a real infection and was made up by the Malwarebytes' development team in order to catch IOBit in the act. Therefore, the only place this definition should exist is in the Malwarebytes program definitions. Within two weeks, though, IOBit was flagging this same infection under almost the exact same names. So let's recap. A company makes up a program and two weeks later it appears in another company's program? Seems pretty obvious that they are stealing their definitions.

    Malwarebytes` has also stated that they have discovered that IOBit may have stolen definitions from other competitors databases as well. At this time we do not who these other competitors are and what was stolen. This is not the first time that malware definitions have been stolen from competitors, but no matter how you look at it, this is a criminal act as the virus definitions are the intellectual property of the creators.

    After the announcement, there has been a strong community outcry on the purported behavior of IOBit as seen by the Malwarebytes's announcement topic listed below. As IOBit is located in China, there has not been much of a response back from them as of yet. The only thing we have seen are threads being deleted from the IOBit forums when the subject is broached, and just recently, and new thread created by a IOBit staff member that is supposed to be used to post questions about the accusations by Malwarebytes'.
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    Thank you fireman4it for your detailed post on the IOBit program / company.

    After my 5,800 odd posts at the MBAM forum, I also discovered these were among the many problems caused by cross detection / intrusion from IOBit, and just one of the many reasons not to trust the company or any program that may be produced by them. I am one of those who (by accident) installed one part of their program just to help with a quicker Defrag, and found a minefield of other items installed that I never knew about.

    You may also note that I added their Uninstaller will not remove the program fully as it is a "mash" of several combined programs that seem to have no direct link to each other, but will install "under cover" tracking programs also. This may be OK in China, but we do not need to agree with the cloaked version of a Registry Cleaner / Antimalware / Antivirus program that is not advised by any expert in computing that I am currently aware of !
    You may note on CNET and other downloads that it seems popular, however in China they are limited to the security type programs that can be installed by their governments rulings.

    To fully delete the program I have only found that one uninstaller works fully >>
    Remove IObit > Info >Tool
    Your only other option is Revo, not 100%, or to manually remove all known entries, again not 100%

    Again, these are only personal views, but I think that many will agree with them -

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    Well, I can tell you I came late to the dance here, having heard none of this until Donna PM'd me with her thoughts. My reaction was of immediate denial, and immediately began comparing this to the intellectual property battles that have long raged in the computer field - one of those "whatever" moments we tend to have every once in a while.

    Nevertheless, my curiosity peaked, I went researching, and found a lot of things I did not want to see. Intellectual riposte is one thing and continues to this day between companies, (just ask Oracle and Microsoft) - but this is thievery on the lowest level.

    Computer Thug Life.

    And I will have no part of it.

    I have since written a PM to Donna and deleted all IObit programs from my laptop. I am currently in the process of manually having a look see (after using Revo) for anything left behind. Hopefully, IObit hasn't taken any lessons from Norton in that respect.

    Regards,

    Michael
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    You can also use the Removal Tool that I linked in the above post, just to be sure it is gone.

    This is like the Norton Removal Tool that is required after all known traces are deleted.

    The Oracle thing, for those who are unaware, is why the "great Java debate" still exists to this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noknojon View Post
    You can also use the Removal Tool that I linked in the above post, just to be sure it is gone.
    I did. Great find.

    Quote Originally Posted by noknojon View Post
    This is like the Norton Removal Tool that is required after all known traces are deleted.
    And a small thermonuclear warhead.

    Quote Originally Posted by noknojon View Post
    The Oracle thing, for those who are unaware, is why the "great Java debate" still exists to this day.

    Regards -
    And Ellison's still pissed.