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    Default AGP8X VS. PCI-Express 16X

    This is his bro. I'm a gamer and buying a new graphics card, but I'm not sure if I should go with PCI-Express x16 or AGP 8x?


    The specs of the 8x is:

    ATI RADEON X850 XT PE Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/VIVO/HDTV, AGP 8X, Model "100-435601" -Retail

    Model# 100-435601
    Item # N82E16814102502

    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI Radeon X850 XT PE/540MHz
    Pixel Pipeline: 16
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1180MHz
    BUS: AGP 8X
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + VIVO + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 2.0
    Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
    Price: 630$


    The specs of the PCI-Express x16 is:

    PowerColor ATI RADEON X850 XT Video Card, 256MB GDDR3, 256-Bit, DVI/HDTV-Out, PCI-Express, Model "R48-TD3" -RETAIL

    Model# R48-TD3
    Item # N82E16814131301

    Specifications:
    Chipset/Core Speed: ATI Radeon X850 XT/520MHz
    Pixel Pipeline: 16
    Memory/Effective Speed: 256MB GDDR3/1080MHz
    BUS: PCI-Express x16
    Ports: VGA Out(15 Pin D-Sub) + TV-Out (S-Video/Composite/HDTV Out) + DVI
    Support 3D API: DirectX 9, OpenGL 2.0
    Max Resolution@32bit Color: 2048X1536@85Hz
    Retail Box (See pics for details)
    Price:$515

    And I was wondering wich is overall better APG or PCI-Express?
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    ASUS 128MB ATI 9200SE/T AGP 4X enabled

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    AGP cards have been around for awhile, PCI graphics cards I think are pretty new item on the market. Every PC I believe every has a PCI slots while many do not have a AGP.

    Your brother is a self proclaimed "expert" in hardware and has stated that he is "smarter" than you - have you asked him for his opinion ?

    If you guys are really serious gamers, save up and buy an Alienware/Northewest Falcon gamers PC.

    Cheers

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    Well what you can get depends on your motherboard. Please post your motherboard model so we can look it up or download CPU-Z here to find out for yourself, under the mainboard tab. http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php#download

    Unless your processor is an FX-55 or higher (maybe an Athlon 64 3500+), your processor is likely to be the bottleneck meaning that PCI-E or AGP won't matter. Technically speaking PCI-E is better especially for future upgrades but I doubt you will be able to tell the difference between them.
    If you are building a completely new system and you are getting a new motherboard, I would advise PCI-E as this seems to be the way of the future. The PCI-card is also cheaper.

    To give the best advise we would need to know more details about your system such as RAM size and speed, processor, motherboard etc.

    You can check out the benchmarks for yourself here:

    AGP cards: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...004/index.html

    PCI-E cards: http://graphics.tomshardware.com/gra...222/index.html

    The AGP section does not include the X850 as it was not available at the time but you can get an idea of the difference from other cards. To be honest I didn't know the X850 AGP had come out yet, could you give me details of where you found it?

    Cheers, Dave.

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    I dont want to waist my money on one of those when I could build my own at half the price. And I did ask him, I dont care too much for his opinion. And all computers have PCI slots but I'm talking about express. There is a huge diffrence between them. Many computers dont have PCI-Express slots.
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    Sorry BG don't mean to be impolite but PCI-E is not the same as PCI. It works on similar priciples to AGP ie. individual data lanes to avoid queuing.
    At the moment there are only graphics cards avaiable for PCI-E 16x but I think they are looking to develop other products aswell.
    The PCI-E slot is different to a PCI slot awell.

    Cheers, Dave.

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    Did not see the "E"- Plus as you can tell really not into games

    BG