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    Default FYI? Warning about Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007

    Hello,

    I searched the Forums and did not receive any hits so I thought I would start a Thread. I hope this is the correct forum?

    :cry:

    I recently installed Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007 on my Windows XP computer.

    Only after doing so did I discover that there is a rather nasty & inconvenient *BUG*!

    The product was sent out with the default dictionary set to FRENCH (France) which insinuates itself into Outlook Express with NO support offered to fix the issue.

    There are bits of information out *there* but all that I read (including Microsoft) suggests a 3rd Party Dictionary. I just paid a lot of money for a product that can only be refered to as defective and that's the advice offered by Microsoft? :evil:

    I have tried the 3rd Party Dictionary solution before only to have conflicts arise so that really isn’t an option for me anyway. I could also copy and paste to Office Word, Spell Check, copy and paste back but that’s not a reasonable expectation either :roll:

    And it only gets worse!

    I made the choice to restore to a point prior to the Office install and found that my Microsoft WORD 2006 is completely gone, wiped out! The restore point was useless! I still have a disc somewhere (not sure where) but at least I have one!

    Does anyone “in the know” have inside information about whether or not Microsoft intends to FIX this issue??? And if so, when???

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    If you have NOT restored the PC, other than the one when you lost Microsoft WORD 2006 , go back to the restore and check undo the last restore.

    NO clue on your other question since I don't use Outlook.

    My default spell checker is "Tiny Spell", it seems to work in all applications that I use.

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    LightHouse

    I don't have Microsoft Office Home & Student 2007 myself, I am running 2002, but have you tried changing the dictionary default? Here is how in 2002 in case they are similar
    • click Tools
    • Language
    • Set Language
    • select the Language of your choice
    • click Default
    • click Yes


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    When the first restore did not bring back MS Word I tried the previous one ...

    Also, I think I was a little hasty with the wiped comment but it might as well be because even though MS Word 2002 and MS Works and MS Works Suite 2006 Setup Launcher and MS Works Suite Add-on for MS Word all show in the Add / Remove Programs I keep getting an installing and insert Disc message when I try to use it.

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    Infomation only may not be a solution:
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    ''a.. Office 2007 is replacing the v.3 English Proofing Tools that shipped
    in prior versions of Office with a new version (v.6). There are a number of
    changes in this new version, but the one that is causing this problem is
    that Outlook Express doesn’t understand the new English Proofing Tools. This is a problem because Outlook Express has never shipped with its own proofing tools but has used the ones shipped by Office.

    b.. There are a few scenarios in which you won’t run into this problem:

    a.. An upgrade from Office 2003 or earlier to Office 2007 RTM if you don’t
    manually uninstall the earlier version of Office.

    b.. A configuration in which Office 2003 (or earlier) has not been
    removed.
    For example, I have Office 2003 still on both of my computers, and I
    still have English in Outlook Express.

    c.. The workaround for this problem is to install the English dictionary
    from Office 2003 (or Office XP). There should be no need to install all of
    Office just the dictionary. The English Proofing Tools can be found in the
    Custom Install tree under ‘Office Shared Features|Proofing Tools|English’.''

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    I'm wondering if you have a different locale setup on your Operating System other than U.S. English? I could only imagine the installer noticed this and probably set the default language/locale to french.

    There are bits of information out *there* but all that I read (including Microsoft) suggests a 3rd Party Dictionary
    Could you possibly link us to those bits of information? Of all the newgroups that I searched in that deals with Microsoft/Office none of them gave info about this sort of bug. Not even on the beta groups. I'm thinking that maybe if one of use reads your findings it'll help us better understand what is going on. The only thing that I could offer as a solution to the problem of the langauge issue is this : http://technet2.microsoft.com/Office....mspx?mfr=true which I"m sure you probably already found.



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    Thanks for the replies Clark76 & zep

    Clark76,

    Before I used the Restore feature I unsuccessfully tried the updated version of the solution that you suggested.

    zep,

    I read somewhere that your information could work unfortunately my computer did not come and was never updated with 2003 and just had XP Home :?

    One thing I did notice when I installed Office 2007 was that there was a step /choice to overwrite (or a similar term) previous versions and I said yes.

    I was hoping to start the Office install again and say no to the question and see if it made a difference?

    But now I’ve only created a “Fine Mess!” :roll:

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    PartieHonteuse,

    I Googled on my XP computer and I'm so miffed I am using my 98SE right now :?

    I will see if I can recreate the search? Right now I'm about to sit down to a late dinner.

    If I remember correctly the key words were "office 2007 outlook express french"

    One result was Dgoldman's WebBlog but before that I did get a result that took me to a Microsoft page. I think it was different from the one you posted. Shorter like the articles that come with choices on the Windows Update page.

    Back in a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartieHonteuse
    I'm wondering if you have a different locale setup on your Operating System other than U.S. English? I could only imagine the installer noticed this and probably set the default language/locale to french.

    There are bits of information out *there* but all that I read (including Microsoft) suggests a 3rd Party Dictionary
    Could you possibly link us to those bits of information? Of all the newgroups that I searched in that deals with Microsoft/Office none of them gave info about this sort of bug. Not even on the beta groups. I'm thinking that maybe if one of use reads your findings it'll help us better understand what is going on. The only thing that I could offer as a solution to the problem of the langauge issue is this : http://technet2.microsoft.com/Office....mspx?mfr=true which I"m sure you probably already found.



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    Re: "different locale setup on your Operating System other than U.S. English"

    I am from Canada and had my MS Word Dictionary Set to English (Canada).

    Here is the Microsoft Page I found through a link on one of the Google Results:

    "You no longer have spell checking capabilities in some languages in Outlook Express 6.0 after you install the 2007 Microsoft Office system"

    Article ID : 932974
    Last Review : February 20, 2007
    Revision : 1.0

    http://support.microsoft.com/default...n-us?spid=2578

    At the bottom of the page it reads:

    APPLIES TO
    • Microsoft Outlook Express 6.0
    • Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2

    Which is me on both cases, I think? :evil:

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    Ok, now I think I understand a little better. I must admit I don't have Office 2007 (any version/flavor) nor have I had the chance to use it yet (still waiting for Demo CD, not wanting to download it). I assumed that Office 2007 (Home and Student) comes with Outlook since even the Office 2003 basic version comes with Outlook (as compared to Outlook Express).

    I do understand your frustrations, however, I hope you realize that you have updated to a version of software that is 5+ years newer than the current email client (Outlook Express) you are using. Also remembering that Outlook Express is part of the Operating System it's not in their interest to create new program features for something that is free, especially since they aren't in the business of opensource/freeware (YAY Captilism! :shock: ).

    One thing I do wonder though is that you say you have (or had) Word 2006, which I've never heard of. Maybe it came with Office XP? Word 2003 is the last version that I'm aware of that came with a version number coinciding with a year (besides of course, 2007). If that's the case and you purchased a previous version of Office (hopefully 2000 or higher) you should be able to use Outlook (not outlook express) and should be able to use the dictionary file that comes with the newer Office 2007 suite.

    I guess on a "happier" note you can give this a shot:

    Outlook Express
    After installing Office 2007, the English dictionary in Outlook Express is replaced with the French dictionary. The reason for this is that Outlook Express uses the dictionary from Office and Microsoft has only released a French language pack that Outlook Express can read. A suggested fix: install just the proofing tools from your previous version of Office. For details, see http://www.outlook-tips.net/archives/2006/20061228.htm. Please note that this fix is not supported by the UW-Madison Help Desk and is provided for informational purposes only.

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    p.s. I found the above "suggested fix" by doing a google search for "Office 2007 dictionary compatibility"

    edit: I do apologize for not checking links in other pages. Apparently the above suggested fix links to a page that cannot be found. I did, however, do a google search for "Office proofing tools" which came up with quite a few results including this site: http://www.translation.net/microsoft_proof_2003.html (yes, the link works lol ).

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